Transcript:

Earlier today, we updated you on an eyewitness news investigation that began more than a year ago on the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing, which sells a medicine touted as a miracle cure for anything from HIV to cancer. And while many, including the FDA, are calling MMS poison, we spoke with one woman who says it works and you may be surprised to learn who it is.

Eyewitness news reporter, Jory Rand, is here with that exclusive interview. Jory. Mark Michele, we’re talking about a substance known as MMS. Yes, you can find it online and many people have. The problem is, many others, including the FDA, say it’s not medicine at all. It’s just bleach. But we found a woman who says it worked for her and you may know her as the Bionic Woman.

As the Bionic Woman, actress Lindsay Wagner found herself in some difficult situations and was able to pull off superhuman feats. Joined at times by the $6 million dollar man, Wagner’s character saved lives and saved the day, once even battling Bigfoot.

Now listen, I didn’t really come out here to hurt you, I didn’t come in to talk to her.

But none of that 70s TV magic prepared Wagner for an ailment she would suffer in real life, a case of chronic urticaria, severe, disabling hives. All over my body, like welts, like big welts, I’d look like a boxer and my eyes were all swollen.

Steroids and antihistamines helped, but they had side effects and weren’t a permanent solution. So after eight months of suffering, Lindsay was desperate for a cure. It would burn, it would itch like crazy. It’s something that could just make you go insane.

Through a friend, Lindsay was put in touch with a woman whose child seemed to be nearly cured of severe autism by something called Miracle Mineral Solution or MMS that was purported to work for a variety of ailments, including chronic hives.

So though it was odd, I looked it up on the internet and I saw lots of good things about it and then I saw a few scary things about it and I thought, I didn’t care. Honestly, I was desperate and I went, I’m trying this.

MMS is made with sodium chloride, an ingredient in many industrial cleaners and it’s the religious sacrament of the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing. Its leaders, Jim Humble and Mark Grenin, self-proclaimed archbishops who claim MMS can cure anything from cancer to the common cold.

Are you telling people you can cure breast cancer with this? We tell people to cure a lot of things. Aren’t you just a con man? Well, I don’t think so.

Critics, including the FDA, say MMS is nothing more than industrial strength bleach.

But for Lindsay? I was dumbfounded. Within a week, I was off the prednisone. Within one week, I was, I was just shocked.

She says within weeks, the hives disappeared and never came back.

I’m not a doctor, I’m not a scientist, I’m not a chemist, but it just seemed like this had actually cured whatever I was reacting to.

People are saying this is bleach, you know, it’s basically, it can be used as a cleaner or something like that and people are putting in their bodies.

Soak in vodka. I dropped a bottle of vodka on my grandmother’s kitchen floor once and it was vinyl. It was this nice dark brown vinyl and there’s a huge tan spot in the middle of it. So, you know, that’s kind of silly. A lot of things we ingest can do a lot of bizarre things.

Now, Lindsay Wagner wanted to make it clear. She is not recommending MMS for anyone else. She simply says she followed the directions, backing off the dosing if it made her sick and it did at times and it wound up working for her. Four years later, she hasn’t had a recurrence.

As for the church, federal prosecutors are watching closely and say if MMS is marketed as a cure for disease, they may wind up facing federal prosecution.

Jory Rand, ABC 7 Eyewitness News.

Transcript:

My name is Maggie.

My son Gunnar was diagnosed with autism last January. He was four years old. He was born in 2008. Normal pregnancy.

He was born when he had the shakes. And his eyes were darting everywhere. And they were a little bit concerned by the medical staff. They did some testing. And of course they gave him the Hep B vaccine without my consent. Or my husband’s consent, without even telling us.

We brought him home when he was three days old. We got a phone call from the hospital saying he had hypothyroidism. Congenital hypothyroidism. And we needed to start him immediately on Synthroid, on synthetic thyroid medication.

So he was breastfed. But we did have to crush a pill into some formula to give him once a day.

So he was developing normally. We were happy. We wanted him. We willed him to be a boy. He was our beautiful boy.

He was… I’m going to cry… three years old. And I noticed that he wasn’t asking a lot of questions. He wasn’t asking why. He didn’t seem very interested in the world around him. He started to stare off out the window. Hard to get his attention.

I went to his endocrinologist. My husband and I voiced our concerns. And they blew us off. They said, oh, the medication fluctuation, dosage fluctuations cause side effects of fatigue.

Time went on and other caregivers, in-laws, parents, noticed that he was looking out of the corner of his eye a lot. Very picky about foods. Started having some sensory issues.

I took him to the endocrinologist again. And I said, I want an evaluation. And she said, oh, he’s fine. You know, boys are hard to potty train. I said, but he was potty training. And now he’s wetting himself and doesn’t even notice that he soiled himself. This something is not right.

And she had got a page and left the room. And there was a resident in there. And I said, I want an evaluation. So she pulled up a milestones chart and said, is he doing this? I said, he was. He’s not anymore. Is he doing this? No, he never did that. Is he doing this? No, he never did that.

And she went down the list and then she said, Gunnar, can you stand on one foot? And he didn’t even turn. She said, Gunnar, Gunnar, Gunnar. And he didn’t even notice. And she said, I agree with you. He needs an evaluation.

So, it took six months to get the evaluation. They’re so, so very far backed up. It was, and that apparently after talking to other parents, that was pretty quick in comparison. But I kept calling and pushing and pushing to get the evaluation.

So, finally had it in January. He was four years old. And then they didn’t give us a diagnosis that day. They said that they would send it to us in the mail when they concurred with each other.

So, they told us he had autism. So, they wanted us to come back in February for some more in-depth testing.

So, that testing, we had changed diet. We had switched to gluten, dairy, soy-free diet almost immediately after his diagnosis. And we almost immediately saw good things. And his digestive issues were getting better.

And he was waking up in the middle of the night screaming in the fetal position and couldn’t tell us what was wrong. If I touched him, he’d scream, ow! Music was on quietly and he’d cover his ears and turn it down. And he just was uncomfortable in his own skin. He didn’t want to be held. He didn’t want to be rocked. He didn’t want to be sang to. He wasn’t interested in books.

His speech was, want juice, want juice. He wasn’t speaking in sentences.

So, we had him tested and his speech and language was at a 23-month-old level. He was four years old. His gross and fine motor skills are around 26-27 months.

And so, I just went into hyper-research mode. I read everything I could get my hands on. I was up all night, all my free time. I was consumed with, I’m bound to determine to heal my child.

You know, I went into the whole acceptance thing at first because I felt like I was maybe doing a disservice to him. I wanted to change anything about him. I just wanted to get him healthy.

So, I stumbled upon the CD (MMS) protocol and I started watching and started taking notes. And this makes sense to me.

Had some food allergy panels ran, did a comprehensive stool analysis. Actually, both my kids, my neurotypical daughter and my son, and they both tested highly intolerant to gluten, dairy, and soy, among some other things. They both have leaky gut. My son has bacterial dysbiosis, which is leaky gut caused by bacterial overgrowth. And my daughter’s was yeast. She had overgrowth of Candida.

So, the whole family went on the diet. I have hypothyroidism. I had a giant goiter. Within ten days, my goiter was gone.

I decided that this was going to work for us. I just knew it. I just knew in my gut that this was right. I ordered the book. The book came in. And my son was obsessed with the book. My son, who never was interested in books. And our living room is full of books. And his bedroom is full of books. And sister’s bedroom is full of books. And he never wanted to sit down and read a book.

And this came in the mail. And he was obsessed. This book is it. This book is it. Which was the longest sentence he had really said at that point. And my husband and I looked at each other and our eyes filled with tears. And we were like, yeah buddy, this is it. And we just knew.

We just knew in our gut that this was the answer for us. And so, I started with my son.

I did the protocol complete for four months for myself. I saw a lot of improvements in my own health concerns. I had adrenal fatigue and all sorts of things going on. I feel great now.

My son had immediate improvements. He started sleeping through the night. Seven weeks in, he no longer needed his thyroid medication he had been on since he was three days old. Still doesn’t need it to this day.

Started sleeping through the night. Digesting food normally. Eating normally. The sensory issues disappeared. You know, he is affectionate. He is happy. He is healthy.

Sorry. It is just incredible. It is incredible.

Everybody notices how great he is doing. He is just reading books. He is going to mainstream preschool. He is getting ready to go to kindergarten next year.

His ATEC when we started June 23rd last year was an 80 and it is currently at a 5. And there are things that I believe the ATEC doesn’t show. Improvements such as he is asking why questions. He wants an explanation. He wants to play games. He initiates conversation. He jokes.

He is sneaky like a five-year-old should be when he wants something and he bargains. And if I ask him a question, if he doesn’t know it, he says, I don’t know. And then he gives his best explanation. He is healthy. I mean, he is doing incredibly, incredibly well.

I have talked to so many parents that have tried every intervention under the sun and spent beaucoup dollars. And they are not seeing a tenth of the improvement that we have seen in our son. And he is just a little walking miracle and nobody can limit his potential.

He has got a full childhood now. He has got a full life ahead of him. And I am really excited to see what he does with his life. He is really intelligent. He has got a photographic memory. He can memorize things very quickly.

The scripting has slowed. A lot of his speech for a while seemed a little robotic. And now we are getting more and more natural speech. And it is just incredible.

I love helping other parents. This community of parents is just amazing. They are a family. Everybody cheers each other on. Everybody wants each other’s child to improve. Nobody is selling anything. Nobody is trying to make money. Everybody is just trying to heal their children. And we are doing it. And we are all doing it.

It is just absolutely incredible. It is incredible to be a part of. And I am just honored. Very honored to be a part of it.

Translation of Spanish transcript:

INTERVIEWER: Here we are with Emiliano del Carmen Gutiérrez Vázquez. He is going to share his experience. He had prostate cancer. How long did you take MMS?

EMILIANO: Three months.

INTERVIEWER: Tell us what happened.

EMILIANO: Around May, I had a prostate antigen test. It came back at 43.5. The doctor told me it was probably cancer, and very aggressive. They did a biopsy and said it was one of the most aggressive cancers. It was not operable at that level.

INTERVIEWER: How did you find MMS?

EMILIANO: Through a friend. I started taking it on August 23, 2013.

INTERVIEWER: MMS, right? About 10 times a day?

EMILIANO: Yes, 10 times a day.

EMILIANO: After 20 days, I did another antigen test and it had dropped to 6.

INTERVIEWER: Very good.

EMILIANO: I continued until November, and it dropped to 3.8.

INTERVIEWER: Then you switched to CDS?

EMILIANO: Yes, because it became difficult to continue MMS.

EMILIANO: The last test I did in March was 1.2.

INTERVIEWER: Fantastic.

EMILIANO: Now I no longer have the symptoms of cancer.

INTERVIEWER: The doctors say your results are good?

EMILIANO: Yes, they say my tests are fine, but I did not tell them what I was taking.

INTERVIEWER: You should continue with a maintenance dose.

EMILIANO: Thank you. If I had not come here, it was not operable. No doctor would operate with an antigen of 43.

Transcript in original Spanish

ENTREVISTADOR: Acá con Emiliano del Carmen Gutiérrez Vázquez. Él estaba con un cáncer a la próstata. ¿Por cuánto tiempo tomaste el MMS?

EMILIANO: Tres meses.

ENTREVISTADOR: Cuéntanos qué pasó.

EMILIANO: En mayo saqué un antígeno prostático, me salió 43.5. El médico me dijo que era probablemente cáncer, muy agresivo. Me hicieron biopsia y dijeron que era uno de los más agresivos. No era operable.

ENTREVISTADOR: ¿Cómo llegaste al MMS?

EMILIANO: A través de un amigo. Empecé el 23 de agosto del 2013.

ENTREVISTADOR: ¿Tomaste MMS 10 veces al día?

EMILIANO: Sí, 10 veces al día.

EMILIANO: A los 20 días me hice otro antígeno y bajó a 6.

EMILIANO: Seguí hasta noviembre y bajó a 3.8.

ENTREVISTADOR: Luego pasaste a CDS.

EMILIANO: Sí.

EMILIANO: El último en marzo fue 1.2.

EMILIANO: Ya no tengo síntomas del cáncer.

ENTREVISTADOR: ¿Qué dicen los médicos?

EMILIANO: Que está todo bien, pero no les dije qué tomaba.

ENTREVISTADOR: Mantente con mantenimiento.

Summary:

Sue describes her daughter Natalie’s lifelong health struggles, including mitochondrial disease, repeated infections, hospitalizations, cognitive regression, autism diagnosis, aggressive behavior, immune problems, and seizures.

After years of medical treatments, DAN doctors, special diets, immune globulin therapy, and rotating medications, Sue says she discovered antiparasitic treatment and later the MMS protocol connected with Kerri Rivera. She reports rapid signs of calmness and awareness after the first very small dose, followed by gradual improvements, reduced medications, lower ATEC score, and longer seizure-free periods.

Transcript:

My name is Sue and my daughter has been very ill all her life, from birth actually.

She started, gosh, she started getting really ill at about two weeks of age. Pneumonia, different things happening to her, many hospitalizations, ear infections, many hospitalizations.

At any rate, we were told to get a muscle biopsy and we learned through that muscle biopsy that she has mitochondrial disease.

So we of course sought out the best doctors that we could seek at that time, that we could find at that time, excuse me. And we employed many, many different medical treatments on my daughter to try to help her feel better.

And part of those treatments were a lot of antibiotics, a lot of antibiotics over the years. And also the mitochondrial specialists at the time were telling us that you really should make sure that every single year you give that girl a flu vaccine and your entire family. Because, you know, she has mitochondrial disease and so she’s going to be more susceptible. She’s, you know, going to want to protect her.

So we did this. And every single flu vaccine that she was given, she ended up in the pediatrician’s office the day two later. And she somehow bounced back, you know, a little bit. But she was always weak, always fragile, always sick.

Ear tubes, always occupational therapy, speech therapy, you know, everything. She started to kind of get a little bit better with a lot of in-home nursing care and my quitting my job and a lot of care.

Somewhere around 2003, and we were getting more help for her. We were really excited. 2003, 2004, like, hey, she’s getting prepared to go into kindergarten, a special needs type of kindergarten, one for mildly cognitively impaired children, but nonetheless, a kindergarten in a general ed setting. And she was happy.

And we gave her another flu shot in 2005.

[Crying]

She regressed so rapidly. She went from being, you know, mildly cognitively impaired, I’m sorry, to severely, multiply impaired classification in the school.

Sorry, I wasn’t prepared for this. Severely multiply impaired. She could no longer be in that mild kindergarten anymore. Mildly impaired kindergarten anymore. She could no longer be integrated with normal children. Not even the least bit.

She had to be moved to an autism classroom. And it was, you know, a classroom of five children and three adults. And she was the worst one in that group of five children. She could not function at all. Barely at all.

So everything fell apart. And this happened, it was September of 2005, she got that flu shot. And she was rapidly degressed. By October, November, December, she had fallen apart within a couple months.

And the school systems take a while to make the adjustments. But by that April of 06, they did make the adjustments to that very heavy, intense need for her supports. And in 06 of April, we got an autism diagnosis.

So we had the medical side and we had the school side of her deterioration.

So of course I sought out the DAN doctors and we went that route for years, very diligently for years. And actually I started the gluten-free diet in 05 because I was already sensing and researching, you know.

And so gluten-free, casein-free diet in late 05 and then 06 became all the DAN supplements folded in and all that, you know. And, you know, there was some improvement initially, but then it just seemed like over the years things weren’t improving. They were getting worse and worse and worse.

07, 08, more aggression, more irritability, not only towards the caregiver myself, attacking kids at school, attacking them, attacking para-educators. My little, at that time, probably roughly 45-pound little infant girl, excuse me, infant girl, was attacking like an animal and could barely stay in school.

We had to switch school systems to try to find even more support for her. So I was really frustrated.

Things degraded even more to the point where she needed immune globulin therapy every four weeks. She’d get an injection of immune globulin into her vein to try to give her some immune support to try to combat these illnesses that kept on reoccurring in her.

And then the DAN doctor at the time, very generous and kind man, he was trying so hard for her, he said, well, let’s try every three weeks now. That still didn’t do it.

So we made another change. We said goodbye to that doctor, thank you for all your efforts. We made another change to the local hospital because we felt that we needed the local hospital support in case things continue to get worse for her.

[Crying] Excuse me.

We got her with an immune specialist and he put her on weekly immune globulin, which is subcutaneous. It’s less invasive. You don’t have to find a vein. You just go under the skin. So then weekly therapies.

Still didn’t do it. She was still attacking. She was still uncomfortable, still not sleeping well. She was not having a quality of life at all that she deserved.

And I was on Facebook, not on Facebook, on email, a Yahoo group, a support group of moms that I try to research like all autism moms do. And this one gal was talking about the moon.

She seems like she’s lost it. I mean, I thought I had already lost it. And she’s talking about the moon. Okay, whatever. And I’d see her emails periodically.

And one time, there was this one evening that Natalie had such a bad evening of weird crying, weird crying in a way that we had never heard before. Almost like a possessed kind of cry before bed.

And I looked at her dad, my husband, I said, this is weird. Something’s weird. And that email I had just read, again, the earlier in the day, I ran down to my computer at that very moment. And I went to Farmer’s Almanac.

And it’s full moon. It’s full moon. And that’s that crazy, crazy laughter. And it’s full moon. I knew that that crazy lady, that crazy mom wasn’t so crazy.

So then I knew what I was dealing with, at least to some degree. And I contacted her doctor. And I was emphatic.

Her pediatrician, I said, we need to, we need to give her an antiparasitic. This is what I think is going on based on all the research I had done. Give her an antiparasitic medication.

Things started to improve. Reports home from school. Natalie did this or Natalie did that where she hadn’t been doing things before. She hadn’t had behavior of hitting or pulling someone’s hair or biting or pinching or kicking. Oh, I could name the behaviors.

So we were onto something. I was really pleased. And we kept on with these antiparasitic meds. We’d rotate very various ones.

I was lucky enough to have found a doctor who was willing to see my passion and trust me. And I told that doctor, I will bring her in for as much blood work as you want me to bring her in. You have to do this for me.

And so there was a relationship where he allowed me to rotate various antiparasitic and sure enough, she improved.

But there was still some strain there. And I couldn’t figure it out what it was. Why? Why it was still going on?

Well, of course, she was still on antifungals daily, antibiotics daily, antivirals daily, and now an antiparasitic daily, rotating whatnot. So she had very complicated medical life.

And I ran into a friend of mine at Costco, an acquaintance who also had a special needs child with autism. And we were just chit-chatting back and forth over the Costco shelves.

And I told her, I said, no, we’ve been doing some antiparasitic on Natalie and they seem like they’re helping. I said, but I was expressing to her, you know, that some kind of strain is still there. I can’t.

And this friend of mine explained, she said, you know, maybe they’re having a hard time coming out. I didn’t really know what that meant. Because I hadn’t had that much time to research coming out.

She goes, you know, coming out, coming out of, you know, in the poop.

So I said, well, she goes, you know, there’s this, this, this woman who I’ve connected with Sue on the computer and she’s from Mexico.

I’m like, I said, I think, I think I know who you’re talking about. I said that to my friend, because I had just again been on Google and I was looking for mineral water, because I felt like, well, maybe this missing piece is maybe Nellie’s not getting enough minerals supplementation.

You know, you’re on the gluten-free diet. You don’t know. You want to make sure that she’s safe.

And I had Google mineral water and up pop Andreas Kalcker video. And I watched these videos. One, this was, this would have been November of 2011.

And I watched these videos around Thanksgiving and I saw this Andreas Kalcker talking and talking. And everything he was saying was making sense to me somehow, even though I didn’t understand the science. It was making logical sense to me, but I didn’t know, can I put, employ that, that technique, that product on someone so sick as this little girl, so sick? I didn’t know.

And I had actually again Googled again on a different evening, sometime around November or early December timeframe of 2011. Mineral water, because I thought, I want to look into that a little bit And Kerri Rivera popped up.

And she was, she had a tropical background. It was a nice, she was pouring and mixing and showing, displaying how to mix this product that Andreas was talking about. I didn’t know that they knew each other necessarily at this point, because I was still learning.

But when my friend at Costco said to me, hey, I know this woman. I said, is she, she has this beautiful face and she’s smiling like this in her video. She goes, yeah.

I said, and she said, Kerri Rivera. I said, yes, that’s who I was talking to, or who I saw in the video.

Anyways, within a week, that friend at Costco got me connected with another friend who had some spare MMS. And I went over to her house and she showed me how to mix the first drops.

And it was July 9th of 2012. And I’ll never forget it, because I’m sorry.

One eighth of a drop. One eighth. She took that afternoon at my friend’s house and we came home.

And I was in the kitchen getting ready to prepare dinner. And Nellie was watching me. She was watching me. Sitting there calmly, calmly sitting and observing me.

And I had never, never witnessed that ever in my life from her. And I knew, I knew from that moment, that moment I saw her, I said this, there’s something to this.

And we found a way to help my daughter finally feel better. I knew.

Anyways, the shock of it all, but delight too at the same time. She went and I had her go jump on the neighbor’s trampoline like she always liked to do. And she jumped.

But it was different. I was watching her from the kitchen, you know, and make sure she was safe and netted trampoline, of course. She stopped jumping.

She was looking around and she looked in the neighbor’s house. She looked up at the birds. She looked down at the grass. And it was different. It was different. Ken, this is just one-eighth of a drop.

Normally, on the trampoline, she would just be constantly bouncing, constantly flapping, looking, you know, never ever ability to focus, not one iota. You know, she could never attend to occupational speech therapy very well, hardly at all, because of that too, you know, in her past.

But yeah, so she came in from the trampoline. I said, Natalie, what are you doing out there?

Because I did see her doing a little bit of what is referred to as tick spitting. She has a little, you know, so I did see that she would kind of spit towards the sunlight, but it wasn’t consuming her, which was amazing.

She came, I said, I said, what are you doing out there? She goes, it’s sensory. She said to me about the spitting. It’s sensory.

Sensory. So what this tells me is she, all those years, and I’m talking with occupational therapists or teachers and trying to explain to people that all that spitting thing is a sensory input thing. She needs that, you know, visual stimming and oral stimming. And it’s a sensory thing.

She’s, you know, she was hearing me all those years. And she told me, it’s sensory, mom. Never had she ever said before. Anyways, more confirmation.

So from there, the story continues, of course, that I employed the MMS protocol of Kerri Rivera’s. I took out all the antioxidants from the DAN protocol. It was basically you’re doing a 180 away from DAN to the Kerri protocol and took some time.

This takes time, especially with a fragile one, as fragile as my Natalie. And we started seeing more, more good reports coming from home.

It’s a little rocky because with someone so sick, you have to move very, very slowly up on the drops. I could only go up, you know, I couldn’t go up as fast as some children could go up.

But I was able to go up and, you know, pretty fast and correlate it with the parasitic protocol and adding those also in slowly.

She started July 9th was the first drop and her ATEC was a 79, I believe it was. And she’s still a work in progress. And it is currently, what is it, May 25th of 2013.

But she hasn’t had a full year because it was such a slow ramping up. She has not had that many parasite full protocol rounds yet. But she’s already at about a 40, I think the last measurement was a 46, I believe, ATEC, somewhere around there.

She is off of antifungal med. Again, she used to take it daily. She is off of antibiotics. Again, she used to take them daily and rotate them because they weren’t working.

She is off of antiviral. She is off of low-dose naltrexin, which is an immune modulator type technique …that is employed by the DAN [protocol]. She’s off of that.

She is… her seizures used to happen grand mal tonic-clonic, which is a very dangerous kind of seizure. They used to happen every two and a half to three weeks. Terribly dangerous.

She has had seizure-free days now. Her largest streak of seizure-free days was 105 days. Then she had a seizure, but we know what it was related to. It was related to a stop in an antiparasitic med that was too fast.

But now she is, again, ramping back up. She’s at seizure-free day 69 right now. And she’s going to continue to go. I feel pretty good about that.

We are lowering her seizure med. We have to go very slow. But the dream is that she will be off that seizure med next too. And then the dream after that is that someday maybe she will be off that immunoglobulin therapy, which would be awesome for her.

So she’s a very complicated case. And being 14 years old and highly compromised in many ways, highly infested. Well, whatever.

She takes a lot of time, but she’s getting there. And so we’re really excited and really hopeful now. We’ve never had this before in our life. Never thought we would ever see her feeling better and coming off of all these medications like this.

So that’s my story, and I’m sorry for crying so much.

Transcript (English translation from Spanish)

Hello, how are you?

My name is Margarita Sánchez, and I’d like to share a bit about the symptoms I experienced.

I began having very strong headaches—stronger than any I had ever had before—and after a few days, I started to develop a cough.

Then, after a few more days, I began to feel very short of breath when speaking and walking, and I just didn’t feel well at all.

So we called the doctor, and the doctor prescribed that I take chlorine dioxide.

I truly wasn’t well—I felt very bad.

I never had a fever at any point, but I did have the cough, the headache, and the shortness of breath when speaking.

So I began taking chlorine dioxide. On the first day, I took it every 15 minutes.

The next day, I woke up feeling much better and began taking it every hour.

By the second and third day, I felt as if nothing had happened at all.

My recovery was very fast while taking chlorine dioxide.

It’s something I highly recommend because it helped me a lot.

Transcript (Original Spanish)

Hola, ¿cómo están?

Mi nombre es Margarita Sánchez y voy a comentarles un poco sobre los síntomas que tuve.

Comencé con dolores de cabeza muy fuertes, como nunca antes me habían dado, y luego de unos días me comenzó a dar tos.

Después, al pasar unos días, comencé a agitarme mucho al hablar y al caminar, y ya no podía estar bien.

Entonces llamamos al médico, y el médico me recetó tomar dióxido de cloro.

Realmente no estaba nada bien; me sentía muy mal.

No presenté fiebre en ningún momento, pero sí tenía tos, dolor de cabeza y agitación al hablar.

Entonces comencé a tomar el dióxido de cloro. El primer día lo tomé cada 15 minutos.

Al siguiente día amanecí muchísimo mejor y comencé a tomarlo cada hora.

Realmente, al segundo y al tercer día, estaba como si no me hubiese pasado nada.

La recuperación fue muy rápida tomando dióxido de cloro.

Es un medicamento que recomiendo mucho porque a mí me ayudó bastante.

Transcript (English translation from Spanish)

Hello, how are you?

My name is Celia Canedo.

I was diagnosed with cervical cancer about a year ago.

I had always gone for regular checkups with my gynecologist, and during one of those visits, they diagnosed this.

I had been experiencing bleeding that seemed unusual for me, so they sent me for a biopsy, and it showed that I had uterine cancer.

When I was diagnosed, I asked the gynecologist what the next steps would be, and she recommended chemotherapy.

At that point, I was already familiar with MMS, so I began researching my condition to understand what it was and what path to follow.

I went back to speak with the doctor and told her I would not undergo chemotherapy because I felt my body would not tolerate it and that it would not be 100% curative.

I started taking MMS more frequently. Later, I met Gustavo, who introduced me to CDS.

I began to feel much better. CDS seemed to give me more energy. I was taking about one milliliter.

My tumor marker levels began to decrease. Before meeting Gustavo, my level was 635.

I went through a crisis—I was anemic and hospitalized. They wanted me to restart treatment, but I refused. I only had three sessions of radiotherapy to stop the bleeding.

I said I would return, but I never did. Instead, I continued taking CDS, followed an alkaline diet, exercised, and practiced meditation—everything I could to improve my health.

Now my levels are down to 237. They have decreased significantly, and I believe they will go down even more.

I continue to have regular gynecological checkups, and the tumor has shrunk.

I also do various treatments such as vaginal rinses and patches.

Now I feel well.

If I could say something to others in a similar situation, I would say: seek the alternative that is most appropriate for you.

Do not let yourself be driven by fear from doctors, because that happened to me. They told me it was either this or death, and to think about my children. They try to scare you.

So think carefully. Look for the right alternative for your body—your body will tell you.

When you have this kind of illness, it can be a wake-up call to change your way of thinking about medicine or to change your diet.

We often live with a lot of stress, so try to find what works for your body and helps you be healthy.

Thank you very much for this testimony.

Thank you.

Transcript (Original Spanish)

Hola, ¿qué tal?

Mi nombre es Celia Canedo.

Me diagnosticaron cáncer de cuello de útero hace un año atrás.

Yo siempre me hice controles normales con la ginecóloga, y en uno de ellos me diagnosticaron esto.

Venía con un sangrado que me parecía raro en mí, así que me mandaron a hacer una biopsia y salió que tengo cáncer de cuello de útero.

Cuando me lo diagnosticaron, le pregunté a la ginecóloga qué seguía, y me dio un tratamiento de quimioterapia.

Yo ya conocía el MMS, así que me puse a investigar sobre mi enfermedad para saber qué era y qué camino seguir.

Volví a hablar con la doctora y le dije que no iba a hacer ningún tratamiento de quimioterapia, porque mi cuerpo no lo iba a resistir y sabía que no iba a ser 100% curable.

Empecé a tomar el MMS más seguido. Después conocí a Gustavo, quien me dio a conocer el CDS.

Me sentí mucho mejor. El CDS como que me dio más energía. Yo lo tomaba de a un mililitro.

Me empezaron a bajar los niveles de valor tumoral. Antes de conocer a Gustavo lo tenía en 635.

Estuve en una crisis, estuve anémica, estuve internada. Me quisieron volver a hacer tratamiento, pero me negué. Solo hice tres sesiones de radioterapia para parar el sangrado.

Dije que volvía, pero nunca volví. Seguí tomando CDS, con alimentación alcalina, ejercicio y meditación—todo lo posible para estar bien.

Ahora lo tengo en 237. Bajó un montón, y pienso que va a bajar más.

Me hago controles ginecológicos periódicamente y el tumor se achicó.

También hago duchas vaginales y uso parches.

Ahora estoy bien.

A quienes están en una situación similar, les diría que busquen la alternativa más conveniente.

Que no se dejen llevar por los médicos que asustan, porque a mí me pasó. Me dijeron: “es esto o la muerte”, y que pensara en mis hijos. Te asustan.

Entonces, que piensen bien y busquen la alternativa correcta para su cuerpo. El cuerpo se los va a decir.

Cuando uno tiene esta clase de enfermedades, es una alerta para cambiar la forma de pensar sobre la medicina o cambiar la manera de alimentarse.

Vivimos mucho bajo estrés, así que traten de encontrar el camino que haga bien a su cuerpo y les permita estar sanos.

Muchas gracias por este testimonio.

Gracias a ustedes.

I’ve been working with MMS since 1995 when I had a bad root canal, and I really hadn’t done a proper protocol.

So in 2011 and 2012, I felt I was dying all the time. I couldn’t get out of bed, I couldn’t sit up, and at that time I was driving a taxi cab.

So there was a point where I just decided, well, why don’t I try and do a bath? So I did a 30-drop bath, and I could not get out of the bathtub after the bath because there was so much activation going on.

And after I did a 30-drop bath and then did another two 15-drop applications orally, the whole thing completely resolved in my body.

Yeah, and I’ve had a bad habit of not doing the proper protocols. But now that I’ve finally gotten to a seminar and I finally got taught something about this, I’m going to actually do the protocol.

I have one other situation with one of my roommates, and she’s a double PhD in pharmacology. She has a bad habit of wanting to try and kill herself all the time, even though she’s all about health. She studies everything that’s about healing, but she is a wreck.

So her foot was swelled up, I would say at least this big. She was crying. She was septic.

She had gone to the doctor, and the doctor had given her antibiotics and sent her home. She said, the pain is terrible, I can’t sleep.

So I said, okay Lisa, let’s treat this with MMS. So I did a 30-drop, two gallon hot water foot [bath], actually put it in a five gallon bucket.

We did two of those treatments. After two treatments, her foot was down to swollen a little tiny bit. On the third treatment, it virtually was gone. Then we did one more treatment and she was completely cured.

She had stepped on something and she walks around barefoot outside. She had [red streaks] going up the leg.

Lisa had one other situation. Her head was swelled up this big. She had four impacted teeth. She was lying on the couch crying, red as a beet.

I said, okay, let’s do MMS together. So I said, let’s do 10 drops together. I sat there and did it with her.

Interestingly, her girlfriend came over with a foot bath, and all the pus that was in here came out into the foot bath.

Then she went down to Mexico, had the teeth out, did some more MMS, and she is completely different now. A new woman.

Hi.

I am Rob. I’m from Grand Prairie. This is my wife Jennifer. She’s videotaping us.

Hi.

Hi.

I have something to say. Like I was supposed to say it for a few months.

I got diagnosed with Lyme disease. And I really do have Lyme disease because I got bit.

I went on a remote fishing trip. If anyone is from Alberta, it was Graham Lake, Vandersteen, Peerless Lake, Big Walleye, Seven Pounders. We caught them. We have proof.

But I got bit on my foot. And I was itching my foot with my other foot all weekend. I thought it was a mosquito bite.

I went in there with crocs with little holes on the top. So it was kind of stupid. But I wasn’t really concerned about ticks back then. But now I kind of know.

So when I got home, three days after I got home, I was deathly sick for 17 days. Stuck in bed. And I could hardly walk to the bathroom. Super dizzy. Tons of symptoms. Not really throwing up, just really nauseated.

I went to the doctor after about a week. It was really dangerous to drive. And it was just like crazy. The doctor diagnosed me with vertigo. Sent me home.

It just didn’t feel right. I’ve been big into sports and stuff, and I just knew that my body wasn’t right.

Anyway, long story short of that, I went to a naturopath. And they said, you could have Lyme disease, you know. Never thought of it.

17 days went by and I got better.

Basically, previously, a year before that, I was diagnosed with testicular cancer. That was another one to go through. I went through the chemo and all those treatments. So I wasn’t sure if I was run down from whatever and stuff.

So anyway, I got better. That was in August of 2017. And now it is June 12th, 2018.

And this February, my symptoms came back. I went to Mexico and got food poisoning. And I thought I had heat stroke or food poisoning and something else.

Anyway, after about a couple days of food poisoning, it just kicked into. I had really bad pains in my neck. And I was stuck in bed in Mexico for 11 days, scared to go to the country. And it was awful.

If I moved my head like three inches either way, I would want to throw up and it was nasty. So I got home and basically actually went home and went in an ambulance. The doctor diagnosed me with vertigo again.

So the doctors in Alberta don’t have a clue with what’s going on with Lyme. They’re starting to catch on a little bit. But I mean, I actually went to my doctor and brought him a list of 62 different symptoms I had. It was awful. I lost use of my elbows. I went blind in this eye for like seven minutes. I had cerebral palsy in this wrist, couldn’t use my wrist. Sometimes my body parts would fall asleep all the time. Joint pain, you name it, neck pain. It was awful.

Anyway, I have a friend that I was supposed to go see when I had cancer. And instead I chose to go take the chemo. But I went to Tijuana before and after my chemo just to try to get things helped with them. And I’ve seen phenomenal things down there.

So if you’re sick and considering things, Dr. Castillo, he does crazy stuff down there. There’s Dr. Cedeno I went to. I wish I would have did the chemo treatments with him. It’s called IPT, Insulin Potentiation Therapy. And it’s pretty phenomenal. And I wish I would have did it.

Because I’m really having serious issues with my feet now. It’s called peripheral neuropathy. And my feet burn and they’re numb and they hurt all the time.

So if you’re dealing with testicular cancer as well, make sure that you get those little frozen oven mitt things on your feet and your hands. For breast cancer, they put those on your feet and your hands so that the blood flow doesn’t go there, so you don’t have that side effect when you’re done. But I have it even with the chemo that I took. So I would suggest highly to ask about that if you’re doing chemo for anything.

But get back to the Lyme in February. This is about three months ago. It’s June. I got really sick and I counted, it was 34 days. So twice from the last time that I was basically bedridden. Couldn’t hardly sit up. I could eat laying down, drink laying down. And it was awful.

And I found out, and everybody has their secret formula that they’re trying to say, try this, try that. But I mean, this MMS stuff I’m talking about, the catch is you follow the money and the things. And everyone’s trying to push something on you. MMS costs about $20 for a year.

So if you can do the math, I know that there’s people watching this with Lyme disease. They went to the Mayo clinics. They went everywhere to try to get the solution.

I was three days taking MMS. Actually, they started me on something a little bit softer. It’s called chlorine dioxide, which is only five percent sodium chloride, if you know anything about MMS, but just Google it. Watch the YouTube videos. They’re true with Lyme disease. There’s not that many with Lyme disease. So that’s why I want to actually write this out.

February the 9th, I was stuck in bed. That was my 34th day. And by February the 12th, I was back to work. Probably maybe not full time, but four or five hours a day. I have like three, four businesses and I’m a busy guy. And this stuff is miracle. It’s called mineral miracle supplement. And to me, it’s been a miracle.

So I’m not promoting it. I don’t get paid. I just feel like I want to tell you this because it’s phenomenal stuff.

I had to experiment with moving up and taking drops. You mix, they react together and you basically just mix it with your water. It tastes like bleach. They say it’s not bleach. So basically what it is, it’s chlorine dioxide. It’s an extra O2 molecule on the end of it. And it’ll burn your clothes. It’ll do everything that bleach will do. But they say it doesn’t hurt the gut bacteria in your gut. So it’s good. It’s good for everything. And it’s like a natural antibiotic.

I was kind of blessed that I didn’t actually take antibiotics at all with the Lyme disease yet. So maybe it’s working better for me. I’m not sure about everybody, because Lyme disease is nasty. And it’s something, you know, you don’t want to have.

But clearly, if you have it, this MMS stuff has saved me. I basically just exercised tonight and feel great. I still need naps. I still am tired. And, you know, I still have some symptoms, but I can live a normal life, mostly for the most part.

So anyway, I just wanted to kind of let you guys know that I’m up to about 15 to 20 drops a day. I’m lazy on it. Sometimes I take like eight drops in the morning and forget the next day. And then I can almost feel, I know I wanted to tell you about brain fog. And it’s not just brain fog. I can feel all the symptoms kind of rushing in through my neck into my brain.

I got to the point where I couldn’t perform a single task at work, couldn’t make a sandwich, couldn’t remember a meeting, couldn’t talk. My words were slurring. It was basically like I had a stroke.

But after day nine of being on this product, all those symptoms left my head. Just all of a sudden, it’s like it’s gone. And it’s been back a few times. But that’s because I haven’t been staying up with the stuff, because you start feeling good and then you just get lazy on your medicine.

So I look at MMS as medicine for me. It’s pretty much the only thing that’s helped me. I’ve tried a lot of stuff and I’m taking Lyme core and Lyme yeast and a few naturopath things too. I think that does maybe help me. Who knows what does.

But I know that it was about two weeks ago I went off of MMS because I read somewhere on YouTube that probably it’s not smart to stay on it the whole time for the rest of your life. But I know a guy that’s been on it seven years and he’s fine.

So I went off it just to see what would happen. And within two days it went back in my brain and I was already getting really sick and I was bedridden for about a day and a half. So then I upped that right away because I was getting sick. And it took me about two days, from Monday to Wednesday, to get better again.

So since then I’ve been just taking it religiously, 15 to 20 drops a day, trying to get it within every hour of the day as much as I can, as long as I can remember. And I’m feeling like 90 percent.

So I just want to let people know that if you have Lyme disease, if you have any kind of disease, a pathogen, bacteria, you can kill a cold, you can kill pretty much anything. Give it a shot. It’s like 30, 40, 50 bucks. I ordered some more online from the U.S. just now. I’m waiting for it because I’ve been on this for like three months. It’s been the best solution I’ve ever found.

So anyway, just want to let you guys know that it’s pretty important to me and I won’t go without it until, you know, hopefully I’ll get better. And I mean, the thing is, as they say, it probably won’t cure me. I’ve read in Jim Humble’s book and it’s saying that it’s not going to actually make it so that my Lyme disease goes away. But it just kind of keeps all the symptoms at bay and keeps you rolling.

So I don’t know really. I’m still considering trying antibiotics maybe after the summer. But I’m just kind of scared because antibiotics run you down. So right now, my immune system is pretty strong. I haven’t had a runny nose. I haven’t felt a cold come on since the very beginning of being on this. It also helps a lot of other things, too. So it cleans out your bacteria and your stuff.

So anyway, that’s my story. Check it out. There’s lots of web. The last website I just looked on was Jim Humble, J-I-M-H-U-M-B-L-E dot I-S. And then it showed me a place to order the stuff. And that’s where I ordered mine.

Okay. Thank you very much and have a great life.

Update (June 29, 2018):

Two weeks after this video, I felt 100% percent.

In the last week I haven’t needed or wanted a nap in over a week. Amazed at waking up without a pounding headache or no joint pain and feeling well-rested.

It’s a night and day difference.

Just a couple days ago i golfed eighteen holes, walked the course on foot, and then drove eight hours afterwards and didn’t get exhausted at all.

I hope this helps people overcome this infectious disease while letting them get back to their lives.

with love, Rob